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      Pheaktra Capo last edited by

      Hello
      How to calculate the break even point of bucket BUY + bucket SELL?

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        l'andorrà last edited by

        Some more info would be appreciated.

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          Pheaktra Capo last edited by Pheaktra Capo

          Hello brother.
          For ex:
          XAUUSD:
          Buy @1850 0.01lot
          Buy @1848 0.02lot
          Buy @1845 0.03lot
          Sell @1855 0.01lot
          Sell @1858 0.02lot
          Sell @1860 0.09lot

          I want to calculate the break even point the whole position(Buy+Sell)
          I mean calculate the price that make the floating profit and loss equal 0$.

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          • l'andorrà
            l'andorrà last edited by

            That's a complex calculation. I remember someone asked something like that in the past. I'm afraid I do not know what the calculation is exactly. If you know it, I can help you to implement it.

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              sktsec @Pheaktra Capo last edited by

              @Pheaktra-Capo
              Considered weighted sum:
              Buy weighed: 1850 x 0.01 + 1848 x 0.02 + 1845 x 0.03
              Sell weighted: 1855 x0.01 + 1858 x 0.02 + 1860 x 0.09

              Buy volume: 0.01 + 0.02 + 0.03
              Sell volume: 0.01 + 0.02 + 0.09

              Break even
              = (Buy weighted - Sell weighted)/(Buy volume - Sell volume)

              In your case, 1871.67

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                Pheaktra Capo last edited by

                Wow really thank you for the formular. Have a nice day

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                  Pheaktra Capo last edited by

                  How do we write (Buy weighed: 1850 x 0.01 + 1848 x 0.02 + 1845 x 0.03
                  Sell weighted: 1855 x0.01 + 1858 x 0.02 + 1860 x 0.09) the formular in Custom MQL Block? or how we do this in any block?

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                    Pheaktra Capo last edited by

                    I just calculate it. Sell weighted is bigger than Buy weighted. So BEP should be at low price and your calculation is 1871.67 is way too high

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                      sktsec @Pheaktra Capo last edited by

                      @Pheaktra-Capo
                      Really? Put it in another way:

                      Buy average: 1846.83 0.06 lot
                      Sell average: 1859.25 0.12 lot

                      Let x be the balance price, i.e.

                      0.06(x - 1846.83)=0.12(1859.25 - x)
                      (0.06-0.12)x = 0.06(1846.83)-0.12(1859.25)
                      x = 1871.67

                      You really need such a higher price to get break even!

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                        Pheaktra Capo last edited by

                        Sell Volume is bigger than Buy Volume.
                        The range Sell price is 1855 to 1860
                        and the range Buy price is 1845 to 1850.
                        How can 1871 that is higher than the sell bucket can make a BEP?

                        Since the highest Sell price is 1860, so the more price rise, the more drawdown will be made

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                          sktsec @Pheaktra Capo last edited by

                          @Pheaktra-Capo
                          Intuition is intuition. Maybe you can re-check yours with reality.

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                            RGoo @Pheaktra Capo last edited by RGoo

                            @Pheaktra-Capo
                            Yes, the issue is a bit more complicated than you think. Of course, where your BEP is not only depends on the price and the volume, but also on the relative value of the positions among each other. You bought your selling positions all over the buying positions!!!
                            Here's another tip that you probably already know. If your positions are very close together and the sell volume only slightly exceeds the buy volume, the result is even a negative value. You can use the following example to help. If you hold the same volume of long and short positions, you have a hedg (profit or loss is frozen and stays the same no matter how the price moves). If the buy volume is only slightly higher than the sell volume, you need a huge price increase to reach your BEP because the sell position is also getting bigger. If you use the formula, you also have to insert a block with the function for the hedg. This can look something like the picture.

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                            RGoo

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                              ambrogio @Pheaktra Capo last edited by

                              @Pheaktra-Capo said in BUY+SELL Break Even Point:

                              Sell Volume is bigger than Buy Volume.
                              The range Sell price is 1855 to 1860
                              and the range Buy price is 1845 to 1850.
                              How can 1871 that is higher than the sell bucket can make a BEP?

                              Since the highest Sell price is 1860, so the more price rise, the more drawdown will be made

                              Let me make an example this way: when we are at the level of the first sell, the bucket of buys is very positive, this is because the buys trade starting at lower price of sells and as the price rises these buys increase more and more, in the meantime the sells you find along the way erode this gain up to zero profit /loss. Just below 1871 you will be positive, just above 1871 you will be negative.

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                                Pheaktra Capo last edited by

                                Good morning. Can you share me that block?

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                                  RGoo @Pheaktra Capo last edited by

                                  @Pheaktra-Capo
                                  You have to use your own variables and constants for this. And you have to write this block yourself to understand what it does. Believe me, a copy and paste would not work.

                                  RGoo

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                                    Pheaktra Capo last edited by

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                                      Pheaktra Capo last edited by

                                      I want to know the formula inside this

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                                        Pheaktra Capo last edited by

                                        For the custom MQL block, i understand already

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                                          RGoo @Pheaktra Capo last edited by

                                          @Pheaktra-Capo
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                                          RGoo

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                                            Pheaktra Capo last edited by

                                            Thank you very much brother for sharing

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